Re: Weapons to be used during the occupation of our new homeland

**Admin** Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:12 pm

Kolt.1911 wrote:
Pendrake wrote:
Kolt.1911 wrote:
We could always order on our own. We're a country. I don't want to start a caliber war but I would see nothing wrong with carrying a .45. It's not like .45 ACP is hard to come by.

I think the balance would be "Hey we are going to order these calibers x, y and z in bulk using the group cash pool. If you want to use 5.7, that's on your own wallet buddy."

I imagine .45 would be one of the standard rounds. .40 can go blow itself.

I hope there will be a LOT of .22 gone through for training (via conversion kits) because it just saves so much money.

5.45, 5.56, 7.62x39,x54,x51, .45, 9mm, .22, .38?/.357?, 12 gauge, .308.
Not an ammo type but magazines, clips and belts are important too.
What am I missing?

imonaboat Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:21 pm

Admin wrote:
Kolt.1911 wrote:
Pendrake wrote:
Kolt.1911 wrote:
We could always order on our own. We're a country. I don't want to start a caliber war but I would see nothing wrong with carrying a .45. It's not like .45 ACP is hard to come by.

I think the balance would be "Hey we are going to order these calibers x, y and z in bulk using the group cash pool. If you want to use 5.7, that's on your own wallet buddy."

I imagine .45 would be one of the standard rounds. .40 can go blow itself.

I hope there will be a LOT of .22 gone through for training (via conversion kits) because it just saves so much money.

5.45, 5.56, 7.62x39,x54,x51, .45, 9mm, .22, .38?/.357?, 12 gauge, .308.
Not an ammo type but magazines, clips and belts are important too.
What am I missing?

optics too. most combat optics bdc is designed for a certain caliber

Pendrake Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:24 pm

Kolt.1911 wrote:
5.45, 5.56, 7.62x39,x54,x51, .45, 9mm, .22, .38?/.357?, 12 gauge, .308.

What am I missing?

Well like I said before, this standardization at the /k/ompound will be different than the deployed armory. Deployed armory will be whatever we can get from wherever we are. That will surely limit the kinds of ammo we'll need (while deployed).

**Admin** Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:44 pm

Pendrake wrote:
Kolt.1911 wrote:
5.45, 5.56, 7.62x39,x54,x51, .45, 9mm, .22, .38?/.357?, 12 gauge, .308.

What am I missing?

Well like I said before, this standardization at the /k/ompound will be different than the deployed armory. Deployed armory will be whatever we can get from wherever we are. That will surely limit the kinds of ammo we'll need (while deployed).

In places like east Africa I would expect to see almost exclusively Russian calibers with limited use of 5.56 NATO

Canadian Empire Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:05 pm

Sudan proper makes g3 clones, im guessing with help from Iran so they could turn up all over the place.

imonaboat Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:23 pm

Canadian Empire wrote:Sudan proper makes g3 clones, im guessing with help from Iran so they could turn up all over the place.

oh fuck yeah i love g3's so versatile. pdw, rifle, dmr, sniper, machine gun. you name it.

Kolt.1911 Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:42 pm

Don't you niggers know that if we have anything to do with Iran, Syria, or North Korea, we're going to get our asses kicked by the UN and 'Murica?

Pendrake Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:44 am

Kolt.1911 wrote:Don't you niggers know that if we have anything to do with Iran, Syria, or North Korea, we're going to get our asses kicked by the UN and 'Murica?

>this
We won't take sides in politics. If working for a country will cause us to make real enemies, then we don't do it. We need to stay quiet where we work.

imonaboat Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:51 am

Pendrake wrote:
Kolt.1911 wrote:Don't you niggers know that if we have anything to do with Iran, Syria, or North Korea, we're going to get our asses kicked by the UN and 'Murica?

>this
We won't take sides in politics. If working for a country will cause us to make real enemies, then we don't do it. We need to stay quiet where we work.

by real i assume you mean people that can hunt us down in the middle of the night, on Christmas and drop a jdam/ Warsaw pact equivalent on us?

Pendrake Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:36 am

imonaboat wrote:
by real i assume you mean people that can hunt us down in the middle of the night, on Christmas and drop a jdam/ Warsaw pact equivalent on us?

There's nothing I love (read: hate) more than hearing the word 'Terrorism' used in the news. It's meaning has really expanded in the last decade.

Superpowers is what I was referring to, we can be demonized EASILY. I think we would have a BIG internet following by that point though (I mean shit, look at the things that have crawled from the abyss of 4chan into everyday use).

Weapons though...what else is there to discuss? Training styles? Scorpion grip versus Center Axis Relock?

Speaking of training, I'm considering making a fitness thread. It will be later though (as the night mission I got back from a number of hours ago has left me tired and I have yet to sleep as of 1000).

Oderint Dum Metuant Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:56 am

Pendrake wrote:
Oderint Dum Metuant wrote:Dirty nogunz reporting in. I mostly browse /k/ for H2H threads, as that's my bag. I am interested in learning, of course.
I've been trying to get into a KFM course, but the closest one from where I live is about 100 miles. I downloaded some digital lessons, but there's only so much you can learn from videos (like a virgin who's seen too much porn, all the methods but no technique).

Have you had any kind of training? I'd be very interested to hear all you have to say.
Hand to hand has been more than a hobby for me as well.

Kolt.1911 wrote:
would one be barred from carrying his own preferred sidearm?
I most certainly hope not. If we aren't even standardizing uniform, who would we standardize equipment? I mean I imagine the people with similar weapons might stick together to share magazines if necessary, but forcing uniformity would stifle individualistic creativity I feel. Even here (in the sandbox) not everyone uses the same weapon. We have a mixed bag of SCAR-H's, M4's, M249's, Sigs and Mk23's (with the occasional Glock 17 that Green Berets will carry), not to mention the McMillans or grenade launchers they bring.

I mean, most people on /k/ tend to stick to AR's, AK's, SKS's and the occasional FAL (and nuggets). Standardization almost happens on its own. As far as deploying though, we're not going to have a wide variety of options for what we can procure anyway.

My training consists of the following:

Four years of Tae Kwon Doe as a child (believe it or not, I did get some practical lessons out of it, particularly, the ability to resist joint locks, a high pain tolerance/pain ignorance, and the importance of physical conditioning)

A couple of classes of Krav (it was kind of McDojoish, but I got some good physical conditioning tips out of it, again)

A little bit of MACP, most of which I disregarded as useless (RNC on the ground is a great way to get stabbed or booted, depending on the circumstances, over-reliance on joint locks, poor teaching of strikes, and a really really shitty standing guard position, both in hand placement and applicability to the battlefield).

Three months training with a martial artist with almost three decades of experience, who, while not a Shaolin Monk, was the disciple of a Shaolin Grandmaster. I learned some of my most important lessons from him (mentality, physiology, movement, effective striking, etc), and while I am still by no means an excellent fighter, I now have the knowledge to put together an effective curriculum. Furthermore, I should have a partner in the next several weeks, and will hopefully be able to get back to regular sparring so that I can get decent again (H2H can depreciate quickly, like many things.)

In re: Fitness thread. I think making a Fitness section would be even better, as we could discuss the many facets necessary to be combat and life effective. I'll PM the admin to ask if he would be kind enough to supply us.

Pendrake Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:21 pm

I'm looking at getting one of these when I get back from the sandbox:

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I figure everyone is going to have normal rifles, there may as well be one gun with a heavy, long barrel that we can bump-fire for use as a SAW.

They also have 5.45 uppers.

Thinking about getting a pistol caliber carbine, probably a Sub 2k just so I can match mags with my Glock. Or hold out until the Magpul FMG comes out:
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Because personally, I would blow 8 men for an MP5 (and not a fucking .22 one) because I like SMGs and SBRs. I would let each of them rail me for a Bizon in 9mm luger.

**Admin** Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:22 pm

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I dont know about you guys, but I WILL pickup the first PKM I see even if i have to go through 20 Hajis with a bayonet for it.

Canadian Empire Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:02 pm

Admin wrote:

I dont know about you guys, but I WILL pickup the first PKM I see even if i have to go through 20 Hajis with a bayonet for it.

Not if I get it first!

Pendrake Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:22 pm

Canadian Empire wrote:
Admin wrote:
I dont know about you guys, but I WILL pickup the first PKM I see even if i have to go through 20 Hajis with a bayonet for it.
Not if I get it first!

Enjoy your 20lb gun plus 16lbs of belt in an ammo can, plus another 7 lbs if you want a bipod, not to mention extra belts. Actually I'll be helpful, the way guys out here carry their SAW's (our guys with the M249's and the Afghans with their M60's) is to attach a large carabiner to the chest of their kit and run the carry-handle through it (they don't fire it from there, just patrol with it there).

Still though, how much weight would your level of fitness allow?

Canadian Empire Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:36 pm

Pendrake wrote:
Canadian Empire wrote:
Admin wrote:
I dont know about you guys, but I WILL pickup the first PKM I see even if i have to go through 20 Hajis with a bayonet for it.
Not if I get it first!

Enjoy your 20lb gun plus 16lbs of belt in an ammo can, plus another 7 lbs if you want a bipod, not to mention extra belts. Actually I'll be helpful, the way guys out here carry their SAW's (our guys with the M249's and the Afghans with their M60's) is to attach a large carabiner to the chest of their kit and run the carry-handle through it (they don't fire it from there, just patrol with it there).

Still though, how much weight would your level of fitness allow?

I figure I could take a PKM, or an RPD, depends on what we find. And I agree dont haul the thing around in your arms. Get some sort of sling for it.

But personally I want to get my hands on a g3a3. Glorious godless Teutonic murder machine!

**Admin** Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:53 pm

Pendrake wrote:
Canadian Empire wrote:
Admin wrote:
I dont know about you guys, but I WILL pickup the first PKM I see even if i have to go through 20 Hajis with a bayonet for it.
Not if I get it first!

Enjoy your 20lb gun plus 16lbs of belt in an ammo can, plus another 7 lbs if you want a bipod, not to mention extra belts. Actually I'll be helpful, the way guys out here carry their SAW's (our guys with the M249's and the Afghans with their M60's) is to attach a large carabiner to the chest of their kit and run the carry-handle through it (they don't fire it from there, just patrol with it there).

Still though, how much weight would your level of fitness allow?

Well the way I see it is:
1. We are all going to end up having around 30 guns each, that doesn't mean we will be using them all at once or the same one for every mission
2. Besides armor, a canteen, a radio, and spare ammo I wont be carrying much, if anything the guys carrying MP7's and and other small lightweight weapons should be carrying the heavy shit, its not like their gun and ammo takes up much weight.
3. there's a pretty good chance ill end up mounting it to the drivers side window on a Ural.

Kolt.1911 Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:09 am

Pendrake wrote:I'm looking at getting one of these when I get back from the sandbox:

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I figure everyone is going to have normal rifles, there may as well be one gun with a heavy, long barrel that we can bump-fire for use as a SAW.

They also have 5.45 uppers.

Thinking about getting a pistol caliber carbine, probably a Sub 2k just so I can match mags with my Glock. Or hold out until the Magpul FMG comes out:
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Because personally, I would blow 8 men for an MP5 (and not a fucking .22 one) because I like SMGs and SBRs. I would let each of them rail me for a Bizon in 9mm luger.

So it's true what they say about the Navy.. Wink

imonaboat Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:24 pm

Pendrake wrote:I'm looking at getting one of these when I get back from the sandbox:

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I figure everyone is going to have normal rifles, there may as well be one gun with a heavy, long barrel that we can bump-fire for use as a SAW.

They also have 5.45 uppers.

Thinking about getting a pistol caliber carbine, probably a Sub 2k just so I can match mags with my Glock. Or hold out until the Magpul FMG comes out:
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Because personally, I would blow 8 men for an MP5 (and not a fucking .22 one) because I like SMGs and SBRs. I would let each of them rail me for a Bizon in 9mm luger.

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here you go pendrake. no cocksucking required.

Pendrake Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:04 pm

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here you go pendrake. no cocksucking required.

Are those actually automatic? (I'm emailing them to ask about the cost of their MP5 variants anyway)

It's not really the availability that limits me getting an MP5, it's the lack of jewgold. I'm only E4.

Regardless, thanks.

imonaboat Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:32 pm

Pendrake wrote:
imonaboat wrote:
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here you go pendrake. no cocksucking required.

Are those actually automatic? (I'm emailing them to ask about the cost of their MP5 variants anyway)

It's not really the availability that limits me getting an MP5, it's the lack of jewgold. I'm only E4.

Regardless, thanks.

post the prices when you get a chance please.

Canadian Empire Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:24 am

BOX OF TOKAROVS!
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BUY IN BULK!

imonaboat Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:31 am

Canadian Empire wrote:BOX OF TOKAROVS!

BUY IN BULK!

fuck, i'm hard now.

**Admin** Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:22 pm

Canadian Empire wrote:BOX OF TOKAROVS!

BUY IN BULK!

DEAR GOD I WANT.

Pendrake Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:49 am

imonaboat wrote:
Pendrake wrote:
imonaboat wrote:
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here you go pendrake. no cocksucking required.

Are those actually automatic? (I'm emailing them to ask about the cost of their MP5 variants anyway)
It's not really the availability that limits me getting an MP5, it's the lack of jewgold. I'm only E4.
Regardless, thanks.
post the prices when you get a chance please.

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Turns out the whole venture was a borderline waste, because the MP5's aren't for us kids.

Ahh, and please disregard the poor grammar of "I hope this the required nomenclature," as I MS-Painted screenshots to make this and didn't remove that sentence.

EDIT:
I was thinking of the best way to get weapons with "repeating qualities" for when we are out of the U.S. and therefore not governed by its laws (unlike niggertits), and came across forums that were talking about Mac 10/11 clones. They brought up a recurring theme:
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In that thread, the "problem" that most Macs tend to go into a burst-fire sequence
inexplicably. My thoughts are that it's probably a matter of learning how to ride your trigger for the desired effect. There are also Mac internals out on the web for 150 and plenty of resources like this:
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Again, for outside of U.S. jurisdiction
>inb4 they are the world's police
>inb4 they are the law

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